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Postby sergei » Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:07 pm

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sergei wrote:DR400G-HDII is at $269 USD on ebay with free shipping. 320NZD, even if add GST, $370 NZ.
Until they sell close to this I will refrain from buying...
With the price they asking ($460), it seems that they buy them from ebay and sell them here. When I contacted them all they could offer was $50 off (it was $590) and free upgrade to 32GB card (as if it was best thing in the world). For the price they originally were selling I could have bought two cameras off eBay.


sergei wrote:I want to buy one in NZ, so I can return it if it is crap or broken (which it has high chance of being crap).


Make your choice.. do you want cheap, or do you want the protection of CGA etc. and are prepared to pay extra for it. Ain't no free lunch.


There is a free lunch, for the retailers in NZ. I understand the hassle of CGA the retailers might face, but that does not justify 200% markup. I expect to pay 50% more locally, but not 200%.

For example: shitty Chinese shoes sell for same price as you would buy Italian made in Europe.

Another example: NZ produces are more expensive in NZ than in Europe. Milk, butter, cheese, meats, you name it... Why? Because we are the suckers.
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Postby MAC_HATER » Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:15 pm

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Only thing that bothers me is that they printed "Carcam" in same font as "Canon" logo is. Why they keep doing stupid shit like this?

EDIT: here it is http://dashcamtalk.com/carcam-k2000/

It is 720p model (1080p is interpolated). and has some issues...


aha! thanks for that! was wondering if it was too good to be true

and yeah, the font copy does allude to it being a bit dodgy as well

its just a shame that the market seems to be flooded with cheap shitty copies that make it hard to find the actual good ones, short of buying a go pro you can buy a good DVR and a shitty DVR and they look the same externally, but one has shitty cheap insides
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Postby Grrrrrrr! » Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:39 pm

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Grrrrrrr! wrote:
sergei wrote:DR400G-HDII is at $269 USD on ebay with free shipping. 320NZD, even if add GST, $370 NZ.
Until they sell close to this I will refrain from buying...
With the price they asking ($460), it seems that they buy them from ebay and sell them here. When I contacted them all they could offer was $50 off (it was $590) and free upgrade to 32GB card (as if it was best thing in the world). For the price they originally were selling I could have bought two cameras off eBay.


sergei wrote:I want to buy one in NZ, so I can return it if it is crap or broken (which it has high chance of being crap).


Make your choice.. do you want cheap, or do you want the protection of CGA etc. and are prepared to pay extra for it. Ain't no free lunch.


There is a free lunch, for the retailers in NZ. I understand the hassle of CGA the retailers might face, but that does not justify 200% markup. I expect to pay 50% more locally, but not 200%.


hmmm $320NZ + 50% = $480, which is more than the $460 they are asking. Problem solved, go buy it.
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Postby sergei » Tue Feb 05, 2013 2:46 pm

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Grrrrrrr! wrote:
sergei wrote:DR400G-HDII is at $269 USD on ebay with free shipping. 320NZD, even if add GST, $370 NZ.
Until they sell close to this I will refrain from buying...
With the price they asking ($460), it seems that they buy them from ebay and sell them here. When I contacted them all they could offer was $50 off (it was $590) and free upgrade to 32GB card (as if it was best thing in the world). For the price they originally were selling I could have bought two cameras off eBay.


sergei wrote:I want to buy one in NZ, so I can return it if it is crap or broken (which it has high chance of being crap).


Make your choice.. do you want cheap, or do you want the protection of CGA etc. and are prepared to pay extra for it. Ain't no free lunch.


There is a free lunch, for the retailers in NZ. I understand the hassle of CGA the retailers might face, but that does not justify 200% markup. I expect to pay 50% more locally, but not 200%.


hmmm $320NZ + 50% = $480, which is more than the $460 they are asking. Problem solved, go buy it.


Now it is a matter of principle - just a week before they did the sale their offer was $50 off $590 price and free upgrade to 32GB. Imagine if I have taken up that offer.... Now they decide "$&#$% it" will sell them at more realistic price. Why not sell it at that price in first place? What is the likelihood some one will dump $600 on an average camera (for example gopro is at about half that)?
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Postby sergei » Sun Feb 10, 2013 6:18 pm

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sergei wrote:
Grrrrrrr! wrote:
sergei wrote:DR400G-HDII is at $269 USD on ebay with free shipping. 320NZD, even if add GST, $370 NZ.
Until they sell close to this I will refrain from buying...
With the price they asking ($460), it seems that they buy them from ebay and sell them here. When I contacted them all they could offer was $50 off (it was $590) and free upgrade to 32GB card (as if it was best thing in the world). For the price they originally were selling I could have bought two cameras off eBay.


sergei wrote:I want to buy one in NZ, so I can return it if it is crap or broken (which it has high chance of being crap).


Make your choice.. do you want cheap, or do you want the protection of CGA etc. and are prepared to pay extra for it. Ain't no free lunch.


There is a free lunch, for the retailers in NZ. I understand the hassle of CGA the retailers might face, but that does not justify 200% markup. I expect to pay 50% more locally, but not 200%.


hmmm $320NZ + 50% = $480, which is more than the $460 they are asking. Problem solved, go buy it.


I decided to buy it at $460, turned out they forgot to mention on their site that the prices do not include GST. So I went through as far as beginning the payment, only to see $69 added on top (which makes it $529). So will definitely skip this one.

EDIT: I went back to the website, and there clearly states that the price is GST inclusive. just WTF.
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Postby Bling » Sun Feb 10, 2013 6:41 pm

Wow, that is pretty fail. Would you really trust them to stand behind the CGA if they can't even sort out a simple website / the pricing? :lol:

Considering you can buy a GoPro locally for that $460, I know which option i'd be going for...
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Postby sergei » Sun Feb 10, 2013 7:37 pm

I bought one from ebay. And I got a reply from motoreyes. They said it was a mistake on their site. I told them it was too late as I have already bought one.
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Postby Al » Sun Feb 10, 2013 7:37 pm

Got my GoPro2 Motorsport for $350 new from a local shop. u mad?
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Postby sergei » Sun Feb 10, 2013 7:44 pm

Al wrote:Got my GoPro2 Motorsport for $350 new from a local shop. u mad?


Are you going to use it as dash cam, if so, do you have to get a different case (for continuous charging)?
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Postby Al » Sun Feb 10, 2013 7:46 pm

Nah I use it with my motorbike.
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Postby Bling » Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:00 pm

Where from Al, sort of want.
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Postby Al » Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:38 pm

Tracktion the dirt bike shop on Moorhouse Ave. They had a clearance sale a while back on Trademe, don't know if they have any left.
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Postby Bling » Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:34 pm

Sweet as, have a google and someone sells the 3 at the hub, close enough for me to bother going for a look.
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Postby MAC_HATER » Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:20 pm

MAC_HATER wrote:http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=557505453


Ended up getting the above one, had a test of it tonight and its actually really good so far

it feels well made and not easily broken like the cheap one, 720P and 1080P are great and are both their own quality, 720P is 30FPS and 1080P is 15FPS, but i didint realise till i poked around in the video details, its nice and smooth in both modes, does about 60-70mb per minute of 1080P which is cool as well, and the microphone is awesome, the old one would clatter and bang and distort at any bump, this one does lose a bit of volume in bumps but its nothing :D

already caught some footage of 2 drivers being utter wankers and refusing to give way - one of them turns out was the neighbor ahahah! hes a bit of a wanker so it never hurts to keep the footage archived.....

the carcam will do the job just fine for me :D
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Postby sergei » Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:41 pm

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MAC_HATER wrote:http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=557505453


Ended up getting the above one, had a test of it tonight and its actually really good so far

it feels well made and not easily broken like the cheap one, 720P and 1080P are great and are both their own quality, 720P is 30FPS and 1080P is 15FPS, but i didint realise till i poked around in the video details, its nice and smooth in both modes, does about 60-70mb per minute of 1080P which is cool as well, and the microphone is awesome, the old one would clatter and bang and distort at any bump, this one does lose a bit of volume in bumps but its nothing :D

already caught some footage of 2 drivers being utter wankers and refusing to give way - one of them turns out was the neighbor ahahah! hes a bit of a wanker so it never hurts to keep the footage archived.....

the carcam will do the job just fine for me :D


I am dead serious about "name and shame" website, so keep the footage.
Once I have enough material, I will put a site in place.
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Postby Bling » Tue Feb 12, 2013 10:54 pm

I will contribute, hopefully behind the camera and not in front... :lol:
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Postby MAC_HATER » Wed Feb 13, 2013 8:56 am

sergei wrote:
I am dead serious about "name and shame" website, so keep the footage.
Once I have enough material, I will put a site in place.


sure thing :D

a friend is wanting to start something like a youtube channel as well, which was the other reason i got the cam, but its not like the footage is copyrighted, we need to get these assholes in the spotlight so ill gladly send you footage of assholes on the roads :P
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Postby sergei » Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:38 am

My plan is using youtube embedded videos, so I don't have to worry about my own streaming server (although not too difficult to setup an html5).
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Postby MAC_HATER » Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:42 am

nice :D

Movie maker does a good job of editing the footage for length, so I can just cut the 15-30 second incident out of the 2 minute file and use that without the fluff

thing is you would just have to deal with what i was listening to at the time :P
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Postby Bling » Wed Feb 13, 2013 1:04 pm

Can't you just mute/delete the audio track in MM?
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