twin-charge trueno

Grotty · Post by **Grotty** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 10:09 pm

There is twincharged ae92 levin bowling around wellington.... (mike if you read this you suck) too much piping !!!!!!!

Stealer Of Souls · Post by **Stealer Of Souls** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 8:11 am

jondee86 wrote:I spoke with a guy who was building a twincharger 4AGE a few years back.

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The most difficult thing was to get the transition nice and smooth to avoid
having a "bump" in the boost curve.

Cheers.... jondee86

This was essentially my idea also. I do think that this approach will lead to the most complicated setup, but should also give the best result since you're not try to suck/blow air through another device. And cause they're in parallel you should be able to minimise the intake lengths; use one intercooler, or two if you wanted to specialise more; and if you're cunning enough and your system is smart enough, you could have just one charger running at a time, eliminating some of the losses incurred by the one not diong much.

Malcolm · Post by **Malcolm** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 10:20 am

i was involved in an interesting discussion on mr2oc.com about twincharging. i will find the link, some people had some very useful input (Driftin_AW is me)
here's the link:
http://www.mr2oc.com/showthread.php?t=79853

but to be honest you don't sound very smart at all, so if you get it to work it will likely be through pure fluke

some pictures:
http://www.gvr4.com/gallery/Twincharged
http://shell.deru.com/~sgn1/AW11/mod/gsa.htm

Malcolm · Post by **Malcolm** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 10:31 am

more stuff from mr2oc.com
http://www.mr2oc.com/showthread.php?t=86612

rollas22 · Post by **rollas22** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 10:34 am

GO hard bro, sounds like your dead keen on the idea, so persue what you wana do and line up his Chevy!!! Id love to see some pics when finished...

RomanV · Post by **RomanV** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 10:40 am

Why put all of this work into a front wheel drive car?
Its not as if you will even be able to put the power to the ground.

The twincharge kit was destined for the AW11.

dragg_racer666 · Post by **dragg_racer666** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 3:18 pm

thanks forthe imput guys. all_wheels what u mean not smart i used to work in a guarage. i've made the first steeps and been to some performance guarages and they are rite behind me. one of the lead machanics was so into it because he has one himself and offered to help. once its all done i'll post some images up.. and hope so be at the 4's and rotarys next yea. its not much of a big job if you have the equipment and have people that have done it befor helping you.

Post by **Distrb** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 3:21 pm

dragg_racer666 wrote:be at the 4's and rotarys next yea.

im pretty sure you wont be able to run in the street class if you plan on racing with that setup.. with having more than one power adder and all... :wink:

vvega · Post by **vvega** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 3:34 pm

Distrb wrote:
dragg_racer666 wrote:be at the 4's and rotarys next yea.

im pretty sure you wont be able to run in the street class if you plan on racing with that setup.. with having more than one power adder and all...

thats kindda like saying that a twin turbo subaru cant enter

its just a fixed displacement compressor and a centivical compressor when it all boils down to it

i had a very serious look at what you want to do andi agree its not difficult
i looked at useing the 2 in parallel for reasons of smooth power and the ability it gives to use a bigger turbo with minimal lag....

v

Inane · Post by **Inane** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 3:44 pm

Dr-X wrote:*holds back roaring laughter*

Dude, if you want to run 12's, get a V8. If you want a quick Levin, turbo it...

Man you gotta love this guy.

He has this crazy idea that there is some sort of exclusivity as to what sorts of motors can run twelves.

hrmm.. how about get a 4cylinder? I guess doesnt have the same flow to it as "Get a v8" sounds much like "get a rota" (with or without the optional boi!)

try this on for size.. get a 3S
or a 2J

OR any engine you like if you have the money!

Post by **Distrb** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 3:48 pm

vvega wrote:thats kindda like saying that a twin turbo subaru cant enter

shouldnt need to have to spell it out for you vvega

'power adder' being a single method of adding power - turbocharging being one method, supercharging being something different, nitrous oxide being another different method :wink:

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neon_spork · Post by **neon_spork** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 5:22 pm

What ever you decide to go with, dont just slap it together, make sure you spend some time designing it first. Even get an engineer who has had some experience developing this kind of thing to give you advice.

At the end of the day how well you designed it in the first place is going to determine how well it works.

Truenotch · Post by **Truenotch** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 5:25 pm

Yeah I agree with neon_spork make sure you do it properly or it sould just be wasting time.

vvega · Post by **vvega** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 5:36 pm

Distrb wrote:
vvega wrote:thats kindda like saying that a twin turbo subaru cant enter

shouldnt need to have to spell it out for you vvega

'power adder' being a single method of adding power - turbocharging being one method, supercharging being something different, nitrous oxide being another different method ..

forced induction is one method nitrus oxide is another
there is no difference between the type of induction between s/c and turbo there is only a differance to a method ones mecanicaly coupled the other is gas coupled,other than the coupling there is no diffeance

unlike nitrus that supplys a oxidser and a fuel element constatuting a chemical reation

i think youll also find that it wouldnt be the first time a twincharged system has been in street.......... i might have to tri to find the magazine artical for you

v

matt dunn · Post by **matt dunn** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 8:37 pm

I mentioned earlier that we had tried twincharging as found it unseccessful,
but we were running them in series,

I think that if you run them in parallel you will get entirely different results.

Matt

Dr-X · Post by **Dr-X** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 8:40 pm

Inane wrote:
Dr-X wrote:*holds back roaring laughter*

Dude, if you want to run 12's, get a V8. If you want a quick Levin, turbo it...

Man you gotta love this guy.

He has this crazy idea that there is some sort of exclusivity as to what sorts of motors can run twelves.

Course 4cyl's can run 12's...but they're still little 4cyl's. And I've never seen a 4 banga run in the 7's...

wde_bdy · Post by **wde_bdy** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 8:47 pm

Dr-X wrote:Course 4cyl's can run 12's...but they're still little 4cyl's. And I've never seen a 4 banga run in the 7's...

You need to get out more then, 4 cylinders have been running in the 7's for years.

Callum

dragg_racer666 · Post by **dragg_racer666** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 9:53 pm

like i said earlyer i got tired of my m8s saying it'll never beat a V8.(they say this because they all own chevs, holdens or vallents) so i am here to prove them wrong. yes i will be setting it up as an inline setup. yes an engineer is a good idea i'm going to get rite onto that. thanks for the sugestions and input guys.

Rick · Post by **Rick** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 10:05 pm

Fastest Four-Cylinder in the World 7.97 second quarter mile

92GTApex · Post by **92GTApex** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 10:14 pm

Isnt the fastest 4 cylinder the top fuel v8 that some guy made into 4 cylinder out of? (cant remember a time if it has run)

Logan

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