shitty way to lose a young life,

duddley · Post by **duddley** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 10:14 pm

even channel number 9 i believe

fangsport · Post by **fangsport** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 7:43 pm

well, it looks like justice might be served, in regard to the original direction of the thread:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/3839615 ... oods-crash

Elmo · Post by **Elmo** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 8:03 pm

ahuh, I guess he wasnt as inocent as people once thought/said.

Al · Post by Al » Tue Jun 22, 2010 9:00 pm

Without the alleged aggravating factors such as the condition of the car, and his alleged driving style on the evening in question. He would be looking at maximum 5 years/$20k fine. However with those aggravating factors thrown in, it could be much longer. If he saves the victims and family any more grief an early guilty plea will cut that by 33% though.

frost · Post by **frost** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 9:34 pm

is that if they throw everything at him? seems so cheap to take a life in this country,

tsoob · Post by **tsoob** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 10:24 pm

shit in the states that would be ten years min

Bling · Post by **Bling** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:19 pm

frost wrote:is that if they throw everything at him? seems so cheap to take a life in this country,

We aren't allowed to properly punish criminals in NZ. Sad, but the case. Would be good if this put others off driving around in cars they can't control though. Will be interesting to see how not having a cert will factor into it, not that we will probably get the details.

Post by **Mr Revhead** » Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:12 pm

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/3 ... illing-boy

Well, becoming clearer now....

xsspeed · Post by **xsspeed** » Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:13 pm

Lost traction due to using the clutch?

FANGIN · Post by **FANGIN** » Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:19 pm

Can be a common occurance whilst driving on wet/slippery/greasy roads at high rpm in 1st whilst fast clutch usage into 2nd...

That guy should have been driving to the conditions / not tried to drift

Bling · Post by **Bling** » Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:24 pm

Trying to keep up with the speed limit in first will be pretty high revs.

Either way, just shows it was a dick move that ended in a kids death.

He knows his cars suspension was uncerted (determined to be unsafe) and wasn't driving to the conditions. If someone came to you with that hypothetical situation, only one outcome would be obvious imo.

cat007 · Post by **cat007** » Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:31 pm

The vehicle inspector's report showed Austin's car had been modified suspension "only suitable for a controlled environment like a race track".

Only suitable for a controlled environment? You mean designed to perform rather than for comfort? Am I missing something there? Or wouldn't a race track suspension setup perform (read: handle) better than one designed to soften bumps etc?

Post by **Mr Revhead** » Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:32 pm

Hell no
track suspension is much much harder.
Too hard = unsafe on roads.

cat007 · Post by **cat007** » Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:33 pm

Mr Revhead wrote:Hell no
track suspension is much much harder.
Too hard = unsafe on roads.

Because tracks are smoother than NZ roads?

Emperor · Post by **Emperor** » Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:35 pm

While I agree with that, as I hated driving my Skyline on adjustables. I do think it's harsh how they word it.

MoNk · Post by **MoNk** » Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:40 pm

cat007 wrote:
Mr Revhead wrote:Hell no
track suspension is much much harder.
Too hard = unsafe on roads.

Because tracks are smoother than NZ roads?

^ Yes. Although I wouldn't say it caused the crash at all.
It was the drivers behavior.

skizzae · Post by **skizzae** » Wed Jul 28, 2010 3:01 pm

depends what adjusties, if he had teins would be sweet az, they probly just saying not road worthy as u need a cert, but i bet ya he jus didnt want to fork out for a cert, been there before :roll:

cause that 15 looks tidy im pretty sure it would pass a cert.

fangsport · Post by **fangsport** » Wed Jul 28, 2010 3:16 pm

cat007 wrote:
The vehicle inspector's report showed Austin's car had been modified suspension "only suitable for a controlled environment like a race track".

Only suitable for a controlled environment? You mean designed to perform rather than for comfort? Am I missing something there? Or wouldn't a race track suspension setup perform (read: handle) better than one designed to soften bumps etc?

like a lot of these road cars with adjustys in them, it probably was running rediculously high spring/wheel rates that are possibly too high even for a track car.

sergei · Post by **sergei** » Wed Jul 28, 2010 3:32 pm

cat007 wrote:
The vehicle inspector's report showed Austin's car had been modified suspension "only suitable for a controlled environment like a race track".

Only suitable for a controlled environment? You mean designed to perform rather than for comfort? Am I missing something there? Or wouldn't a race track suspension setup perform (read: handle) better than one designed to soften bumps etc?

Analogy here: is trying to compete in Paris-Dakkar rally in a stock standard corolla.
Think what happens when you have hard suspension if you go over a substantial bump? it will skip. While the wheel air born you get no traction, no stopping and no steering for that wheel. With softer suspension it will follow all the bumps maintaining traction.

cat007 · Post by **cat007** » Wed Jul 28, 2010 3:33 pm

sergei wrote:
cat007 wrote:
The vehicle inspector's report showed Austin's car had been modified suspension "only suitable for a controlled environment like a race track".

Only suitable for a controlled environment? You mean designed to perform rather than for comfort? Am I missing something there? Or wouldn't a race track suspension setup perform (read: handle) better than one designed to soften bumps etc?

Analogy here: is trying to compete in Paris-Dakkar rally in a stock standard corolla.
Think what happens when you have hard suspension if you go over a substantial bump? it will skip. While the wheel air born you get no traction, no stopping and no steering for that wheel. With softer suspension it will follow all the bumps maintaining traction.

Ok. Got it now. Thanks.