lsd celica boxes
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lsd celica boxes
are all 3sge fwd gear boxes interchangable, i was going to use a v6 camry box for its stregnth, but it doesnt hav lsd, so wondering if theres anyother box i can uses in a st162 that has lsd?
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I beieve they are all interchangable and most fwd celicas use s series boxes.... they only lsd gearbox that I know of made for celicas is in some 94-99 celica/currens. Thats the E-56. I think the E series boxes are supposed to be stonger internally too.
The E-56 has thicker driveshafts though so you'd need them but it should match up
The E-56 has thicker driveshafts though so you'd need them but it should match up
Re: lsd celica boxes
LowRydr wrote:are all 3sge fwd gear boxes interchangable, i was going to use a v6 camry box for its stregnth, but it doesnt hav lsd, so wondering if theres anyother box i can uses in a st162 that has lsd?
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All V6's are auto's though.?
I use an ST-202 FWD LSD box in my ST-182.
Fits just fine, tho needed to adjust a mount slightly.
Dont know about shafts tho, I ditched the 182 celica ones for some supercharged levin shafts.
I think the 202 shafts may have been too long to fit in the 182, cant remember. Regardless. if you use different shafts, you have to make sure they fit in the hubs, or replace the hubs. Had the levin shafts machined down to fit in 182 hubs
Fits just fine, tho needed to adjust a mount slightly.
Dont know about shafts tho, I ditched the 182 celica ones for some supercharged levin shafts.
I think the 202 shafts may have been too long to fit in the 182, cant remember. Regardless. if you use different shafts, you have to make sure they fit in the hubs, or replace the hubs. Had the levin shafts machined down to fit in 182 hubs
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I got the box cheap, but they usually go for about $1000
Dunno how much the shafts were, cant see them being expensive.
Same goes for getting them machined
Everything else is 182, cept maybe the clutch slave, which i think came with the box.
Dunno how much the shafts were, cant see them being expensive.
Same goes for getting them machined
Everything else is 182, cept maybe the clutch slave, which i think came with the box.
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I think most if not all factory LSD toyota boxes are viscous?
All my stuff was secondhand aswell, fark paying new prices.
I think Toyotas Galore (think thats what they called) had a 202 LSD box recently, but they wanted $1200
All my stuff was secondhand aswell, fark paying new prices.
I think Toyotas Galore (think thats what they called) had a 202 LSD box recently, but they wanted $1200
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you can use a SW20 MR2 LSD box but you need the shifter arm from a gt4 gearbox, or possibly an st202 box, you will also need to plug up the old hole from the stock shifter arm.
If you simply want to get an LSD without too much stuffing around, and don't need the extra strength of an E series box, it might be cheaper to get a sanding block type LSD and install it into your existing box. They are relatively cheap (search the MR2 forums for info), the most expensive part being the installation, as the gearbox has to be partially dismantled.
If you simply want to get an LSD without too much stuffing around, and don't need the extra strength of an E series box, it might be cheaper to get a sanding block type LSD and install it into your existing box. They are relatively cheap (search the MR2 forums for info), the most expensive part being the installation, as the gearbox has to be partially dismantled.
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I've got a spare gearbox that I wont be using that I suspect is an lsd. It will bolt up to a 3s-ge... was sold to me (I hadnt seen it till I had paid and been sent it) as st-182 celica box... but looks exactly like an E-56 lsd from a st-206 curren that I also have.
so to check for sure all I need to do is stick a driveshaft in one side... spin it.... hold the input shaft still and see what way the other side turns right?...if it turns the same direction lsd, if opposite non-lsd?
I'll sell it if someone wants it after i check.... but the reason I didnt use it is cause i is missing a slave cylinder, speed sensor and shifter arm.
so to check for sure all I need to do is stick a driveshaft in one side... spin it.... hold the input shaft still and see what way the other side turns right?...if it turns the same direction lsd, if opposite non-lsd?
I'll sell it if someone wants it after i check.... but the reason I didnt use it is cause i is missing a slave cylinder, speed sensor and shifter arm.
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local wreckers quotes me for a st202 $1200 for jsut the box :S i have like bugga all money - i have things to trade/sell, like topmount intercooler off a 2003 sti wrx, and some other stuff.
ive brought a manual celica st162 for the parts but it odesnt have lsd,
Mr Revhead - if u could please price me one cheape up id be appreciated
celica_tommo - if it is lsd how much u want for it? wat else do i need to make it work? .. iu didnt think the st-182 celica's had lsd :S
ive brought a manual celica st162 for the parts but it odesnt have lsd,
Mr Revhead - if u could please price me one cheape up id be appreciated
celica_tommo - if it is lsd how much u want for it? wat else do i need to make it work? .. iu didnt think the st-182 celica's had lsd :S
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Its a gearbox that I assume is from an st202 celica or st206 curren
I own what I know is an E56 lsd box from a curren and the one i will be selling looks idedntical
As I said it was sold to me as a st-182 box but when I had a look at it its definately not the gearbox I was expecting to see. I bought it off a guy tat bought it from an engine importer. There are no lsd st-182 gearboxes
It is missing and needs these things: speed sensor (whole unit including the gear and eletrical connector), slave cylinder (but thats easy to pick up, your one on your old box might fit, but lots of people buy new anyway), shifter arm (probably also not so hard to get hold of, one of another gearbox might fit)
I will probably want about $300-400 for it or more if the buyer wants me to get the missing bits and pieces for it. Beacause I dont know the history of it though I can give you your money back if it turns out to be shit.
So if you want it in a few weeks that cool... but I am going to hold onto it just in case my other gearbox is no good
I own what I know is an E56 lsd box from a curren and the one i will be selling looks idedntical
As I said it was sold to me as a st-182 box but when I had a look at it its definately not the gearbox I was expecting to see. I bought it off a guy tat bought it from an engine importer. There are no lsd st-182 gearboxes
It is missing and needs these things: speed sensor (whole unit including the gear and eletrical connector), slave cylinder (but thats easy to pick up, your one on your old box might fit, but lots of people buy new anyway), shifter arm (probably also not so hard to get hold of, one of another gearbox might fit)
I will probably want about $300-400 for it or more if the buyer wants me to get the missing bits and pieces for it. Beacause I dont know the history of it though I can give you your money back if it turns out to be shit.
So if you want it in a few weeks that cool... but I am going to hold onto it just in case my other gearbox is no good
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so far have an e56 box with lsd from st202 celica for $830inc gst. comes with shafts if you need them.
also sw20 turbo box for $513 maybe lsd geting that checked.
confirmed lsd
also sw20 turbo box for $513 maybe lsd geting that checked.
confirmed lsd
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oh and one more at $520inc gst comes with shafts out of st202 carina. again double checking lsd
also confirmed lsd
also confirmed lsd
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