Help!! piston rings for 3sge beams

James Sen · Post by **James Sen** » Sat May 17, 2014 8:16 pm

So I'm doing a standard rebuild on 3sge beams motor out of an altezza, I bought a set of genuine toyota piston rings, when i came to put them on the piston i saw that the 2nd ring and the oil ring are to thick and it doesn't fit on the groove. So i checked the the part (13011-88570) and thats the correct one listed for the engine. The pistons in the engine are the factory toyota ones.

So my question is that has anyone else come across this problem, or does anyone have this engine apart to compare the piston ring grooves compared to my ones, maybe theres something weird with my engine or toyota may have packed the wrong rings. can anyone help??

Soiled · Post by **Soiled** » Mon May 19, 2014 11:43 am

I have a left over piston in my garage somewhere, will take a photo when I get home tonight.

Soiled · Post by **Soiled** » Mon May 19, 2014 5:17 pm

Hope that helps.

James Sen · Post by **James Sen** » Tue May 20, 2014 6:46 pm

hey man thanks for the pic, it does look identical to my piston, do you still have the original rings for it, just need to know if the top ring is the same thickness as the 2nd ring.

Soiled · Post by **Soiled** » Tue May 20, 2014 8:31 pm

Nah they're long gone sorry

CAMB01 · Post by **CAMB01** » Tue May 20, 2014 9:41 pm

Just measure the ring groove in the piston. Order some aftermarket rings with the ring sizes and bore size.

RomanV · Post by **RomanV** » Fri May 23, 2014 6:19 pm

There were two variants of the RWD beams motor for compression ratio, so maybe the Auto motors (11:1) had a different piston ring part number to manual motors (11.5:1)?

I've got some pistons somewhere here you can compare against if need be.

James Sen · Post by **James Sen** » Mon May 26, 2014 10:35 pm

yeah thats what I thought at first but theres only one part number listed for the altezza beams engine, yeah if i can get a piston to compare with that will be great.

Soiled · Post by **Soiled** » Tue May 27, 2014 7:27 am

The 1GFE in the Altezza is also a 'beams' engine... haven't happened to get some 1G rings by mistake??

James Sen · Post by **James Sen** » Wed May 28, 2014 10:05 pm

its was for a 3sge for sure and plus the rings in the kit was for 4 pistons

Bazda · Post by **Bazda** » Thu May 29, 2014 2:45 pm

Measure the ring gap on the pistons.
If you put up some measurements people may be able to help a little more.

James Sen · Post by **James Sen** » Thu May 29, 2014 9:38 pm

ok the ring layout on my pistons are 1.2 x 1.2 x 3mm and the layout on the toyota genuine rings (which are the ones specified for my engine according to the part numbers) that I bought were 1.2 x 1.5 x 4mm

Celica RA45 · Post by **Celica RA45** » Fri Jun 06, 2014 9:51 pm

sounds like gen 3 3sge piston rings

James Sen · Post by **James Sen** » Mon Jun 09, 2014 9:43 pm

which ones? the rings off my piston or the rings that I got

Grrrrrrr! · Post by **Grrrrrrr!** » Mon Jun 09, 2014 10:02 pm

1.2/1.5/4 is gen2 & 3 3sge and gen 2,3 & 4 3sgte, prob gen 1 too, but i've never stripped one.

Celica RA45 · Post by **Celica RA45** » Mon Jun 16, 2014 10:22 pm

take the rings back and ask for another set. sounds like some one has mixed the ring packs up

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