Turbo spin at idle - resistance

The place for all technical car discussions. If you haven't already, read our Disclaimer first!

Moderator: The Mod Squad

Post Reply
Vertigo
Toyspeed Member
Posts: 1172
Joined: Mon Aug 29, 2005 11:03 am
Location: Auckland

Turbo spin at idle - resistance

Post by Vertigo »

Hi guys. Just recently rebuilt my turbo (TD05HR), and now its not spinning at idle. I can spin it by hand, but any tiny amount of sideways pressure on the shaft makes it bind up.

I tightened the shaft nut to 80 in-lbs, which was in the lower end of the 75-100 in-lbs spec stated online.

Have I $&#$% up? Or does it just need to wear in?
TVIS just kicked in, yo!
AW11 200kw 4AGTE build Discuss
Image
User avatar
Mr Ree
Toyspeed Member
Posts: 2758
Joined: Wed Nov 17, 2010 5:51 pm
Location: On the South coast where the tui's sing tututu.

Re: Turbo spin at idle - resistance

Post by Mr Ree »

My JB China special that I bought a decade ago, didnt spin at idle when it was a fresh install, but for the past few years, it has spun at idle, and for quite a while upon shut down. I imagine yours just needs a few kms on it before it does the same :)
wak thud gush!
User avatar
RS13
Toyspeed Member
Posts: 3580
Joined: Tue Oct 07, 2003 8:07 pm
Location: Christchurch

Re: Turbo spin at idle - resistance

Post by RS13 »

Perfectly normal for a fresh turbo. If you can still spin it by hand and it isn't obviously rubbing on either housing then I wouldn't worry.
Daily driver: Toyota RunX/Toyota Caldina
Ex: 2x AE101, 5x KP60, KP61, EP71, 3x KE70, KE72, AE70, AE82, 2x TE71, AE90, AE92, ST170, plus 11 Hondas, 12 Nissans, 6 Fords, 4 Mazdas, 3 Mitsis, an Isuzu and a Lada!

Image
Vertigo
Toyspeed Member
Posts: 1172
Joined: Mon Aug 29, 2005 11:03 am
Location: Auckland

Re: Turbo spin at idle - resistance

Post by Vertigo »

Thanks guys, that makes me feel a lot better. Ill warm it up, and if all looks good, take it for a drive.
TVIS just kicked in, yo!
AW11 200kw 4AGTE build Discuss
Image
MAGN1T
!USER HAS BEEN BANNED!
Posts: 646
Joined: Mon Jun 10, 2002 10:34 pm

Re: Turbo spin at idle - resistance

Post by MAGN1T »

Do turbos spin at idle?
Everyone seems to think they do?


Had another big discussion with the usual ricers wayyyy back.


Try asking on an American forum.
No of course they don't, it all depends on the idle speed.
Computers make you go mad.
Vertigo
Toyspeed Member
Posts: 1172
Joined: Mon Aug 29, 2005 11:03 am
Location: Auckland

Re: Turbo spin at idle - resistance

Post by Vertigo »

Well, the same turbo did on my engine before the rebuild. TD05HR on 4AGE.
TVIS just kicked in, yo!
AW11 200kw 4AGTE build Discuss
Image
User avatar
RS13
Toyspeed Member
Posts: 3580
Joined: Tue Oct 07, 2003 8:07 pm
Location: Christchurch

Re: Turbo spin at idle - resistance

Post by RS13 »

How did the drive go?
Daily driver: Toyota RunX/Toyota Caldina
Ex: 2x AE101, 5x KP60, KP61, EP71, 3x KE70, KE72, AE70, AE82, 2x TE71, AE90, AE92, ST170, plus 11 Hondas, 12 Nissans, 6 Fords, 4 Mazdas, 3 Mitsis, an Isuzu and a Lada!

Image
User avatar
MrOizo
Toyspeed Legend
Posts: 6658
Joined: Thu May 16, 2002 8:26 pm
Location: Onehunga, Auckland
Contact:

Re: Turbo spin at idle - resistance

Post by MrOizo »

I had a issue like this which resulted in a piston seal needing replaced.
There was a tiny bit of rust on the seal and that was enough to have the shaft bind up when at operating oil pressure.

I asked how to avoid this and was told to avoid rust enhancing conditions - moisture free environment. Is that even possible especially in this 85-95% humidity? :P This is why ii run my car every few weeks - dont like the thought of removing the turbo again!
Vertigo
Toyspeed Member
Posts: 1172
Joined: Mon Aug 29, 2005 11:03 am
Location: Auckland

Re: Turbo spin at idle - resistance

Post by Vertigo »

Haven't driven yet due to camping trips and such, but will update after fixing another issue somewhat unrelated.
TVIS just kicked in, yo!
AW11 200kw 4AGTE build Discuss
Image
Vertigo
Toyspeed Member
Posts: 1172
Joined: Mon Aug 29, 2005 11:03 am
Location: Auckland

Re: Turbo spin at idle - resistance

Post by Vertigo »

Drive successful, boosts just fine. Will do a few test drives, and then check the idle spin. But Im not worried now.
TVIS just kicked in, yo!
AW11 200kw 4AGTE build Discuss
Image
Vertigo
Toyspeed Member
Posts: 1172
Joined: Mon Aug 29, 2005 11:03 am
Location: Auckland

Re: Turbo spin at idle - resistance

Post by Vertigo »

Many drives later, there have been zero problems. Its still very resistant to turn with sideways pressure, but I am confident to call it normal.
TVIS just kicked in, yo!
AW11 200kw 4AGTE build Discuss
Image
Post Reply