Beams 3sge vs Sr20det vs 3tgte

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Postby shihad » Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:35 pm

probally not viable cost wise but I have always thought a carina was the perfect size for a 1ggte...
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Postby RomanV » Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:50 pm

Truenotch wrote:
RomanV wrote:As in, theoretically I know where the hole is, I know what I'm supposed to plug it with, but that's about it?

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Well in this case you actually had a hole to plug, but didn't go there 8O .


Well actually, I prefer not to plug the hole because I like how fluid gushes out of it, onto my head.

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I swear that just about every type of engine known to man, has been shoe horned into a carina... 3RZ though.

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Postby fuel » Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:57 pm

just putting this out there

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Postby Truenotch » Tue Nov 16, 2010 12:00 am

RomanV wrote:Well actually, I prefer not to plug the hole because I like how fluid gushes out of it, onto my head.


... Sounds like there's something wrong with your head?
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Postby Emperor » Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:28 am

Babz wrote:
13b - too expensive to maintain and build but always wanted one


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Postby Babz » Tue Nov 16, 2010 3:27 pm

See now i feel like going rotary :? what to do?
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Postby Bling » Tue Nov 16, 2010 3:34 pm

Check your bank balance and go from there :lol:

I'd work out what sort of animal you want under the hood. Every engine is going to deliver a different feel. Me... i'd like a 1UZ in my corona, why though I have no idea.... its a V8 is all I have right now :lol: But yeah, not sure what i'll end up with, but I prefer revving the living shit out of engines, so not sure which will suit me 8) Hell I might just be 'boring' and go 4AGTE. No point being different if its going to cost you more for the same result.

So yeah, bank balance will dictate a bit and what work you can do yourself if any :)
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Postby TRD Man » Tue Nov 16, 2010 4:44 pm

Of the 3 engines you've indicated you're choosing between, and your desired power output, the turbo SR20 is the only realistic option.
You simply won't get there with a 3SGE and if choosing between two turbo engines/drivetrain combos why wouldn't you use the more modern with more readily available and reasonably priced components?
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Postby Babz » Tue Nov 16, 2010 6:26 pm

i was trying to get a hold of Scott form fraser today but he was always out. try again tomorrow. If he is able to put a gen 3 3sgte motor in then i will go that way, provided it is not much more then getting a SR20 in there.

Anyone know a good place to get nolathane bushings done? I have all my front and rear off. Also has anyone done a camber mod on a AA60 or ta63 or tt141 etc with the IRS. I know you have to add on another adjusting bolt and drill out the hole , but exactly where i do not know.
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Postby al_feinted » Tue Nov 16, 2010 9:11 pm

Hi, Ive done the camber mod on my corona. Heres a few pics of the finished product.

The bolts I used were bought new from BMW (around $60 for the set!!) i think they are from a M5.... there must be other cheaper options out there.

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33-32-1-092-310 ECC-WASHER
33-32-6-751-446 NUT


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Postby Babz » Tue Nov 16, 2010 9:26 pm

Thats awesome mate. thanks for that. Were you able to dial it back close to Zero after lowering it?
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Postby al_feinted » Tue Nov 16, 2010 9:55 pm

No problem. From memory I got 0.5 degrees on one side and 1.5 degrees on the other on the lowest setting (not sure why the difference i guess i cant weld straight). A massive improvement over the 3-4 degrees you can end up with after lowering.
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Postby FANGIN » Wed Nov 17, 2010 9:37 am

Hate to be a hater - SR20. Best bang for buck.
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Postby Mr Revhead » Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:11 am

TRD Man wrote:Of the 3 engines you've indicated you're choosing between, and your desired power output, the turbo SR20 is the only realistic option.
You simply won't get there with a 3SGE and if choosing between two turbo engines/drivetrain combos why wouldn't you use the more modern with more readily available and reasonably priced components?


Either that.
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Postby 4agtepwr » Wed Nov 17, 2010 9:57 pm

Its sooooo easy to make 400 reliable hp out of an vct s14/s15 sr20. Its also not that hard to make the same out of a 3S but a bit more costly to do the rwd thing i guess. Id go sr20 even though im a fairly staunch toyota man there pretty hard to beat
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Postby fangsport » Wed Nov 17, 2010 10:35 pm

2/3RZ..................... no substitute for cubes when building ponies.
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Postby Adamal » Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:45 pm

FANGIN wrote:Hate to be a hater - SR20. Best bang for buck.


Yea. SR20DET will be easier to hit 250hp than a 3SGE BEAMS, cheaper, will be less strained and give you more mid range torque.
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Postby tsoob » Thu Nov 18, 2010 12:08 am

13 B is the coolest option.
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Postby h8wrxs » Thu Nov 18, 2010 12:27 am

fuel wrote:just putting this out there

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Postby Babz » Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:50 am

So no one thinks i should be doing a 3T-EU turbo setup? Has anyone had any experience with this setup here? Just to be different.

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