Redlines

The place for all technical car discussions. If you haven't already, read our Disclaimer first!

Moderator: The Mod Squad

Redlines

Postby Chickenman » Fri Jul 02, 2004 11:45 pm

Ok this is mostly so I can find out the factory redline of a st185 3sgte but be interesting to see where other Toyotas are supposedly heading for trouble.

1990 Corona = 6grand
Baby Jesus
User avatar
Chickenman
I Am The Walrus!
 
Posts: 3554
Joined: Thu May 29, 2003 11:29 am
Location: CHCH

Postby 92GTApex » Sat Jul 03, 2004 12:02 am

20valve = 7600
cut out = 8300

3.8L commodore about 3500 :lol:

Logan
Last edited by 92GTApex on Sun Jul 04, 2004 3:43 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Current ride: 92 Levin GT Apex
Current project: 91 Levin GT Apex (Crashed - It wasnt me)
www.area-51.co.nz
www.toyperformance.org.nz
www.lextreme.com
http://toyspeed.blakjak.net/profiles/pr ... hp?id=1731
92GTApex
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 950
Joined: Mon Feb 02, 2004 4:54 pm
Location: Dargaville, Way the hell up north

Postby Adamal » Sat Jul 03, 2004 9:19 am

3S-GE in my 90 SW20: 7000rpm. But thats like a thin red line up to 7250rpm, then its thick red all the way up to 9000rpm
Motorsport is like sex. You could take it to track and have a long, enjoyable session, or you could take it to the strip and get it over with in less than 20 seconds.
User avatar
Adamal
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 11592
Joined: Sun May 02, 2004 4:01 pm
Location: Waitakere Drift Stage (Ranges)

Postby Snoozin » Sat Jul 03, 2004 9:53 am

My 2K Starlet didn't have a rev counter, so I couldn't tell you what redline the mighty 2K had.... iirc it makes its whopping 45hp at around 5500rom, so I imagine redline isn't far past that!

Once I had 80km/h out of it, absolutely screaming it's nuts of in 2nd.

Alfa redlines at 6000rpm, but thats for the old 1.5l engine, the new 1700 redlines at 6500rpm, and makes maximum power at 6300rpm. Alfa tend to set fairly timid redlines on the tacho, but when I did have a rev limiter, (mechanical, centrifugal device in the dizzy rotor - now replaced by a Mk4 Cortina rotor without such a limiter) it cut in at 7200.
User avatar
Snoozin
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 2836
Joined: Sat Feb 14, 2004 6:35 pm
Location: Bribing WOF Testers.....

Postby Bling » Sat Jul 03, 2004 2:40 pm

20valve (blacktop) 8,000 :twisted:
User avatar
Bling
** Moderator **
 
Posts: 15990
Joined: Mon Dec 22, 2003 9:02 pm
Location: Quake City

Postby Dell'Orto » Sat Jul 03, 2004 2:52 pm

Factory redline is at 7 grand in the MR2, with factory rev cut at 7,200. Mine is currently at 2 grand :lol:
1988 KE70 Wagon - Slowly rusting
1990 NA6 MX-5 - because reasons
2018 Ranger - Because workcar
1997 FD3S RX-7 Type R - all brap, all the time
OMG so shiny!

Quint wrote:Not just cock, large cock.
User avatar
Dell'Orto
** Moderator **
 
Posts: 17494
Joined: Tue Jul 08, 2003 5:07 am
Location: Straight out the ghetto, Lower Hutt

Postby DXTACY » Sat Jul 03, 2004 2:57 pm

haha brad, good on ya for settin it to 2, dont want mechanics etc takin it out for cane evry once n a while lol
Lil Pimpin

Silver KP61 hatch rollin on 15 inch wires
User avatar
DXTACY
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 348
Joined: Mon Aug 11, 2003 5:20 pm
Location: Welly, Upper hutt

Postby flygt4 » Sat Jul 03, 2004 3:10 pm

gen 2 3sgte once again... red lined at 7...but wuld go all the way to 7800 b4 it hit limiter if u were silly enuf...... apparently they sposed to cut at 7200.... but mine had no speed cut either so go figure.ecu was stock coz i pulled it out and had a play with it too.
User avatar
flygt4
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 3820
Joined: Sat Sep 20, 2003 6:57 pm
Location: Wellington

Postby Girvs » Sat Jul 03, 2004 6:11 pm

I think mines 6,750 it redlines (would have to check), although as soon as my car hits red line, you get that nice bouncing sound going and the lack of power after that point.
Engine is a 2JZ-GE
User avatar
Girvs
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 1066
Joined: Mon Feb 17, 2003 11:08 pm
Location: So glad not to be in Auckland

Postby Chickenman » Sat Jul 03, 2004 7:14 pm

Looks like I'll have to twink some of my red out :D Be hard to get used to... hang on, I used to change at 7 grand in first and second anyway 8O.
Baby Jesus
User avatar
Chickenman
I Am The Walrus!
 
Posts: 3554
Joined: Thu May 29, 2003 11:29 am
Location: CHCH

Postby Jools » Sun Jul 04, 2004 4:01 am

flygt4 wrote:gen 2 3sgte once again... red lined at 7...but wuld go all the way to 7800 b4 it hit limiter if u were silly enuf...... apparently they sposed to cut at 7200.... but mine had no speed cut either so go figure.ecu was stock coz i pulled it out and had a play with it too.


Same with my old factory ECU, no speed cut and no rpm limit (well none that i was game enough to find :) )
90 Celica GTR Turbo
184kw @ 14psi at the front wheels (Now running 17psi watch this space for dyno :) )

"Owner of the fastest Celica GTR in NZ (Until proved otherwise ;) )"

www.Jools.tk
User avatar
Jools
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 710
Joined: Fri May 16, 2003 3:29 am
Location: West Auckland

Postby Al » Sun Jul 04, 2004 2:44 pm

flygt4, thats crazy 7800rpm with a ct26?

that would have been wheezing like a an old hag with emphysema

im surprised it made it past 7200rpm
85 Corolla GT - 08 Blade Master G
Image
User avatar
Al
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 6146
Joined: Mon Jan 20, 2003 11:52 pm
Location: Christchurch

Postby ants_ae92 » Mon Jul 05, 2004 5:04 pm

4age 16v 7200rpm. My model doesnt have a rev cut out or speed cut out. Found that it had no rev cut out on the dyno as the dude who drove it reved it to 8grand.
User avatar
ants_ae92
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 286
Joined: Thu Jun 10, 2004 9:15 pm
Location: West Auckland

Postby Dell'Orto » Mon Jul 05, 2004 5:10 pm

Hmmm, perhaps the ST185's dont have cuts, as Garth (Al knows him :lol:) reckoned his never cut out, but I dont think he ever tried to bounce it off the limiter.
1988 KE70 Wagon - Slowly rusting
1990 NA6 MX-5 - because reasons
2018 Ranger - Because workcar
1997 FD3S RX-7 Type R - all brap, all the time
OMG so shiny!

Quint wrote:Not just cock, large cock.
User avatar
Dell'Orto
** Moderator **
 
Posts: 17494
Joined: Tue Jul 08, 2003 5:07 am
Location: Straight out the ghetto, Lower Hutt

Postby matt dunn » Mon Jul 05, 2004 7:02 pm

ants_ae92 wrote:4age 16v 7200rpm. My model doesnt have a rev cut out or speed cut out. Found that it had no rev cut out on the dyno as the dude who drove it reved it to 8grand.


I think you'll find that all 4age's with std ECU will have a rev cut.
From memory they range from 8200 to 8600 though.

Matt
matt dunn
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 7109
Joined: Fri Sep 12, 2003 1:01 am
Location: Timaru

Postby event2 » Mon Jul 05, 2004 11:22 pm

my gtz turino

red line 7500 cut out 8000
but no point taking it past 7000 cos its dieing by then
speed cut? havent found one yet

i think its a factory computer but yea goes too fast.
event2
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 172
Joined: Thu Mar 20, 2003 10:44 pm
Location: Dunedin

Postby matt dunn » Mon Jul 05, 2004 11:26 pm

event2 wrote:my gtz turino

red line 7500 cut out 8000
but no point taking it past 7000 cos its dieing by then
speed cut? havent found one yet

i think its a factory computer but yea goes too fast.


Will hit speed cut just after the end of the speedo, 190ish.
matt dunn
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 7109
Joined: Fri Sep 12, 2003 1:01 am
Location: Timaru

Postby Chickenman » Tue Jul 06, 2004 1:17 am

So the Toyota engines are getting up there aye? Coolness all around :D . I think I'll leave the redline where it is so my friends and mechanics think twice about revving it any harder. :evil:
Baby Jesus
User avatar
Chickenman
I Am The Walrus!
 
Posts: 3554
Joined: Thu May 29, 2003 11:29 am
Location: CHCH

Postby Jools » Tue Jul 06, 2004 6:04 pm

FYI The Gen III 3S-GTE can be takin up to 8000rpm due to its shim under bucket design so i've read, but you wouldnt be making stuff all power up there without mucking with the cams i'm guessing.
90 Celica GTR Turbo
184kw @ 14psi at the front wheels (Now running 17psi watch this space for dyno :) )

"Owner of the fastest Celica GTR in NZ (Until proved otherwise ;) )"

www.Jools.tk
User avatar
Jools
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 710
Joined: Fri May 16, 2003 3:29 am
Location: West Auckland

Postby Rollux » Tue Jul 06, 2004 6:32 pm

Mate's worked 4k pulls to 9000 regularly(like, every gear change)
2002 Allex RS180 6 Speed

Racing a Honda is like competing in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you are still a Retard.
Nissan Motorsport = Nismo
Honda Motorsport = Homo??
Oversteer is when the Passenger is scared. Understeer is when the Driver is scared
User avatar
Rollux
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 451
Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2003 2:53 pm
Location: Under a bonnet somewhere...

Next

Return to Tech Questions

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 65 guests