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Postby Santa'sBoostinSleigh » Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:05 pm

BlakJak wrote:
CozmoNz wrote:If I was going to get a wagon like a GTT or a large sedan like an HSV, it would be for going on road trips etc.
Which is where the GTT lets the team down... Its reliance on 98 octane would be a PITA, as it isnt available in a lot of small towns.

I dare say that you could run it on 96 without a hellova lot of drawback on an as-required basis.
I ran my GT4 on 96 briefly and it didn't complain very much at all, that was with an effectively empty tak, put $5 in it and then drove to a 98 octane stn. ;-)
Car didnt even hiccup for the trip, though. Expect with smooth open road driving you wouldn't notice it much.
well i drive my GT-T on 95 non-stop as stupid taranaki doesnt have 98 at all :( and i believe that Farmer_Dave did the same thing
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Postby BlakJak » Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:09 pm

Yeah, I suspect the 'must use 98' bandwagon just keeps getting jumped on by those who feel they have an excuse ;-)


I used 98 by choice and made decisions that allowed me to time my trips past 98-selling stations. Ala, Auckland-Wellington I filled my tank in Taupo both directions...



But to go back to the point of this thread, its a nice looking ride, a shame its not a Toyota but having spent a little time in some recent Holdens, theyre not that bad...

(One of the guys at work has one on a semi permanent rental deal)
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Postby RomanV » Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:15 pm

BlakJak wrote:I dare say that you could run it on 96 without a hellova lot of drawback on an as-required basis.

I ran my GT4 on 96 briefly and it didn't complain very much at all, that was with an effectively empty tak, put $5 in it and then drove to a 98 octane stn. ;-)

Car didnt even hiccup for the trip, though. Expect with smooth open road driving you wouldn't notice it much.


No GT4s ever came with the gen 4 3sgte.....

Gen 4s run higher compression, and from the little that I have heard about them, tend to go bang rather easily. :?
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Postby Mr Revhead » Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:23 pm

has it leaked yet? :P
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Postby Silent Knight » Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:25 pm

Mr Revhead wrote:has it leaked yet? :P


Ahha yea....all the newer Holden's have a BIG tendency to start forming cracks and leaks around the water system. :lol:
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Postby Mr Revhead » Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:29 pm

oh i was meaning oil leaks.... for a while some dealers were replacing the rear mains as soon as they had them delivered.....
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Postby CozmoNz » Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:30 pm

so... reliabliablity not at the top of the list then eh?
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Postby BlakJak » Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:36 pm

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No GT4s ever came with the gen 4 3sgte.....

Gen 4s run higher compression, and from the little that I have heard about them, tend to go bang rather easily. :?


Correct, was a Gen2..
And I find it somewhat 'interesting' that the Gen4 3SGTE is 'that' picky...
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Postby fivebob » Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:37 pm

CozmoNz wrote:so... reliabliablity not at the top of the list then eh?

What do you expect, it's a Holden, and before anyone thinks about beating up on me about that comment, I own one (1995 HSV) so I can back it up with a looong list of problems :evil:

Anyway it's a race between Holden and Ford as to who has the longest recall list, Ford was winning for much of the 90's and early 2000's but they're getting better now :roll:
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Postby Mr Revhead » Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:39 pm

well, you do own a ferrari and sw20.... so i guess a holden would fit in with your love of having to fix your cars all the time :P
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Postby fivebob » Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:47 pm

Mr Revhead wrote:well, you do own a ferrari and sw20.... so i guess a holden would fit in with your love of having to fix your cars all the time :P

Well that would be true if I could actually work on my Holden. Alas it's in Australia and I lack the facilities, so I have to pay to have it repaired, which is probably why I don't use it much these days.

The Ferrari is supposedly one of the more reliable ones, I'll find out if I ever get it on the road.

Apart from the occasional clutch, and blown engine caused by my own stupidity, my SW20s have been very reliable. The same can't be said for the Caldina though appears i now need to rebuild my right rear shock :(

Anyway they've all proved far more reliable than any Ford I've had anything to do with :P
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Postby CozmoNz » Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:47 pm

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CozmoNz wrote:so... reliabliablity not at the top of the list then eh?

What do you expect, it's a Holden, and before anyone thinks about beating up on me about that comment, I own one (1995 HSV) so I can back it up with a looong list of problems :evil:

Anyway it's a race between Holden and Ford as to who has the longest recall list, Ford was winning for much of the 90's and early 2000's but they're getting better now :roll:


i just figured for the price, youd expect something that dosnt leak within 10 years of buying the vehicle :D. Especially after all these years of learning from their mistakes ;).
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Postby barryogen » Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:55 pm

BlakJak wrote:Yeah, I suspect the 'must use 98' bandwagon just keeps getting jumped on by those who feel they have an excuse ;-)


I used 98 by choice and made decisions that allowed me to time my trips past 98-selling stations. Ala, Auckland-Wellington I filled my tank in Taupo both directions...


In my current ride it make 2/5s of f*ck all difference between 95/6 and 98, however in my old Subaru Grand Wagon, it made almost an almost 10% fuel economy difference, going to 91 also made it heaps worse on gas round town(assume full tank 55L 98=~410km, 95/6=380km, 91=340km)...

incidentally, the RunX gets ~440 off a tank(50L) round town, and ~680 on a trip, guestimate based on only having 640 on it, and I'm back in town with a 1/8 tank.
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Postby CozmoNz » Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:58 pm

with 11.5:1 compression ratio, it SHOULD make a difference....
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Postby Silent Knight » Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:59 pm

CozmoNz wrote:i just figured for the price, youd expect something that dosnt leak within 10 years of buying the vehicle :D. Especially after all these years of learning from their mistakes ;).


You'd be surprised...one thing I definately know is most of the newer Holdens has tremendous problems with their radiators and teh rest of the cooling system.

As soon as a new range is released Jason (Works @ South Auckland Radiators) gets in a new shipment of radiators for them as the demand is so big...

Problem is Holden/Ford are pumping out so many newer models and cutting back on production costs they don't do the job the way they used to anymore... :cry:
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Postby AJz » Tue Nov 22, 2005 2:01 pm

vhpacer wrote:I think your underestimating the power of these things. And the sound is enough to own one :D


Not really no, there are other factory high powered v8's in the world besides the constant ford Vs holden battle.

vhpacer wrote:Plus I dont see how anyone can see this car as being ''ugly".


Just not my cup of tea thats all, but its his car, he likes it, and thats fine with me.

plus if you read my post again, you will not find i used the word "ugly"

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Postby RomanV » Tue Nov 22, 2005 2:14 pm

BlakJak wrote:Correct, was a Gen2..
And I find it somewhat 'interesting' that the Gen4 3SGTE is 'that' picky...


Well, I cant comment any further, as I have never owned a Gen 4 3sgte, or any 3sgte for that matter.

But I do recall Fivebob saying something on the matter, regarding caldinas, 96 octane, and having spare pistons handy.

P.S. What is the CR for a caldina engine?

It doesnt say on that engine site.
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Postby Farmer_dave » Tue Nov 22, 2005 2:22 pm

lol thanks for all the comments well the positive ones anyway :)
From what I can see the quality of this car is miles ahead of the caldina (although the caldina was a good car) The performance is way ahead also 6 speed manual :) I love it.
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Postby Silent Knight » Tue Nov 22, 2005 2:28 pm

9:0:1 AFAIK RomanV
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Postby Santa'sBoostinSleigh » Tue Nov 22, 2005 2:42 pm

Silent Knight wrote:9:0:1 AFAIK RomanV

9.0:1 sounds right to me
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