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Postby TRD_ZERO » Sun Aug 20, 2006 8:24 pm

Ive seen these cold air boxes on two ae111's on trade me and would like to know is it really worth the effot of fitting them? DO they really make a difference? How do they work or are they just a hollow alloy box.......who has had experience with them and how much do they cost??? All input appreciated.
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Postby method » Sun Aug 20, 2006 8:29 pm

Its just a cold air box that costs heaps. Has a pretty efficent filter though so there could be a bit of a gain. Most ARC things are made of tig welded titanium, look real nice.
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Postby AceSniper » Sun Aug 20, 2006 11:14 pm

air box or filter box....

Air box is in a way like a plenum/intake resignator
they have a bellmouth on the inside, using max volume ment to help torque
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Postby TRD_ZERO » Mon Aug 21, 2006 7:37 am

YEah im talking about the airbox that sits between the filter and plenium. Any1 know the cost of these things??
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Postby BZR4AGE » Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:31 pm

the ARC airbox stores air while you are in low RPM, when you start reving your car, it will already have the stored air for use, therefore helping with top end power. But don't expect too much power gain. probably just 1-2 hps, but you will be able to feel a better response from your car at top end.
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Postby AceSniper » Mon Aug 21, 2006 3:36 pm

dont bother unless you can get one made up (copyed cheap)
of find one off a import
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Postby RomanV » Mon Aug 21, 2006 3:42 pm

BZR4AGE wrote:the ARC airbox stores air while you are in low RPM, when you start reving your car, it will already have the stored air for use, therefore helping with top end power. But don't expect too much power gain. probably just 1-2 hps, but you will be able to feel a better response from your car at top end.


with a 1600cc engine at 2000rpm, the engine is consuming approximately 1600 litres of air per minute.

Tell me, how big is this box, and how much air does it store? :D
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Postby barryogen » Mon Aug 21, 2006 4:43 pm

RomanV wrote:with a 1600cc engine at 2000rpm, the engine is consuming approximately 1600 litres of air per minute.


eek... 27L per second, thats a fair whack of air...

so even a reletivly large one holding 6L is going to take a whole .2 seconds to empty.
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Postby Maggs » Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:09 pm

Made a wicked differance on my old s14 silvia anyway. Noticed a great reponse when pumping the gas pedal and changing gears.. They are good.
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Postby RomanV » Wed Aug 23, 2006 3:50 pm

barryogen wrote:
RomanV wrote:with a 1600cc engine at 2000rpm, the engine is consuming approximately 1600 litres of air per minute.


eek... 27L per second, thats a fair whack of air...

so even a reletivly large one holding 6L is going to take a whole .2 seconds to empty.


Dont get me wrong, having an airbox/resonators does make a difference, but not for the reasons that some people think. :)
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Postby ROBODISCO_20v » Sun Sep 03, 2006 1:25 pm

Would be similar to those simota & J's wale penis intakes that the honda boys use. I'd say they'd improve throttle response
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Postby AceSniper » Sun Sep 03, 2006 2:54 pm

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Postby astrae » Sun Sep 03, 2006 6:15 pm

AceSniper wrote:8)
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I've thought about doing a pod filter setup in my AE111 for a while. But I don't see the point in locating your filter here like a lot of people do. Surely you are going to get less air, not to mention hot air having your filter sitting in behind your battery.

A factory airbox with a K&N filter would give you more performance....

Looking at doing what a frind of mine has done, turned the battery around and run pipe into the guard with a pod attached.
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Postby TRD_ZERO » Sun Sep 03, 2006 7:27 pm

Ace sniper....... Where did u get yours??? And if i do find one how much should i pay for it?.....what is a fair price to pay? Anyone?
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Postby AceSniper » Sun Sep 03, 2006 7:37 pm

astrae : your very right about the pod there... if you look there is no clamp onit... this is because I was setting up the dual coils I have more pipe that leads the pod into the guard, And this is in a AE101 so before this it was runing AFM stock airbox and a K&N.

The ARC box I have came out of a import
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