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Postby Brick » Mon Nov 23, 2009 6:17 pm

not sure if its been said but what if you try going guilty of careless use instead of sustained loss?
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Postby d1 mule » Mon Nov 23, 2009 6:19 pm

Mr Revhead wrote:Does your Hiace look like a work hiace
or a boys hiace. Ie tints and slammed


kinda half and half, it had mags on the front and bickies on the back, lowered 2 inches but it looks like a work van, it still has the stickers on it from when it was a courier van and paint on the inside from when it was a painters van etc.

iv got a meeting with a lawyer on wed so should be interesting . fingers crossed....... :?
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Postby durty starlet » Mon Nov 23, 2009 8:30 pm

d1 mule wrote:
Mr Revhead wrote:Does your Hiace look like a work hiace
or a boys hiace. Ie tints and slammed

it had mags on the front and bickies on the back,


I would say your $&#$% probly lol
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Postby dnalunchie » Mon Nov 23, 2009 8:33 pm

durty starlet wrote:
d1 mule wrote:
Mr Revhead wrote:Does your Hiace look like a work hiace
or a boys hiace. Ie tints and slammed

it had mags on the front and bickies on the back,


I would say your $&#$% probly lol


its totally your call mate but as I said, I have been down the lawyer road and there is NOTHING they can do but argue the facts, if ur convicted then they HAVE to take ur liecense.....so just dont spend too much cash on ur lawyer because he really cant help you :)
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Postby Mr Revhead » Mon Nov 23, 2009 8:35 pm

durty starlet wrote:
d1 mule wrote:
Mr Revhead wrote:Does your Hiace look like a work hiace
or a boys hiace. Ie tints and slammed

it had mags on the front and bickies on the back,


I would say your $&#$% probly lol


In other words it looked like you even changed the wheels to do a burnout...

Good luck, but hope you have the savings for a work license :?
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Postby Bling » Mon Nov 23, 2009 8:43 pm

Why the different wheels?

Talk about standing out like dogs balls with skids rims on the back..... the situation is becoming clearer :lol:
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Postby d1 mule » Mon Nov 23, 2009 9:56 pm

had different wheels cuz i got a punchure on the back (front 18" rear 17") and the van has got the LSD out of my drift car in it so cant run dif wheels so just put the steelys on til i got round to fixing it.

im going to meet the lawyer on wed and see what she says, started looking into limited licences also, prices vary from $140 to $1000...

i just cant see how my pussy little burnout justifies loosing my license for 6 months, i would liken it to stealing a loaf of bread and then being put on home D etc

the fact of the matter is yes i broke the law. HOWEVER not a single person got hurt, Not a single person even had a chance of getting hurt/injured, the road didnt get damaged etc etc the only thing that happened is i probaly lost 0.0001mm of tread on my tires.

i am not a boy racer/ street racer i dont wear my cap sideways with my hood up, i work 2 jobs to pay my mortgage, i am a active member of the CCC and affiliated with MSNZ so i race/drift on the track, i had 1 little cock up and license is goneburger, what a crock of shit.
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Postby S T E A L T H » Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:18 pm

welcome to the police state :D

under 1 grand for a work license, shit that's not bad.
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Postby AE86less » Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:25 pm

Having bickies on the back won't help your case :lol:

I got charged with Sustained loss a few years back in my old 3AU AE85, went round a corner too quick, squeeled the tyres and when I gunned it the bitch poured oil smoke out the back. The lawyer cost me $1500, but now all I have on my record is a Careless Use conviction.

In your case the cop doesn't seem to have a lot to go on. He was quite a distance away, and it could be put down to an accident, i.e. used to having nice big tyres on the back not 175/70 commercial tyres :lol:
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Postby pjay » Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:35 pm

Stereotyping says you're $&#$%.

Good luck
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Postby Girvs » Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:31 am

A 2 second burnout is the same concept as a 10 second burnout. Time is irrelvant and the underlying issue is its still a burnout (or sustained loss of traction as the case may be).
In short the facts were you did a burnout, you got caught while doing it, you admitted you were guilty. You may as well admit you were guilty in court and get it over with as everything is stacked against you.
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Postby TRD Man » Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:38 am

Girvs wrote:In short the facts were you did a burnout, you got caught while doing it, you admitted you were guilty. You may as well admit you were guilty in court and get it over with as everything is stacked against you.

The prize for the most sensible post in the thread goes right here.
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Postby sergei » Tue Nov 24, 2009 9:29 am

What I find is that these boyracers laws are totally unnecessary, for example every single boyracer behaviour could be charged with the laws already established before boyracer act.
Burnouts: careless use of motorvehicle/careless driving/dangerous driving
Racing: dangerous driving/speeding.
etc.
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Postby Mr Revhead » Tue Nov 24, 2009 9:30 am

It's like the cell ph law.. totally needless... there are already laws about driver distraction
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Postby dnalunchie » Tue Nov 24, 2009 9:33 am

My burnout was 54m long according to the courts... I was kinda pissed at losing my liecense but had to smile when the judge read the facts.... if ur ganna have to face a bad situation try and find the funny in it :P
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Postby sergei » Tue Nov 24, 2009 9:34 am

How about we burn the politicians on the pole :twisted:
I can't believe they are getting paid for simply bullshitting and twisting the facts.
There is one Road Code adjustment I would welcome: fine/demerit people blocking right lanes.
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Postby Girvs » Tue Nov 24, 2009 9:53 am

sergei wrote:There is one Road Code adjustment I would welcome: fine/demerit people blocking right lanes.

Not sure where it says there is a fast lane in the road code. AFAIK motorways and so forth are all rated to 100Km/h hence any lane can be used for speeds upto 100Km/h. Its only courtesy that you are to pull to the left (unless signs state otherwise). But back on topic...
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Postby sergei » Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:20 am

Girvs wrote:
sergei wrote:There is one Road Code adjustment I would welcome: fine/demerit people blocking right lanes.

Not sure where it says there is a fast lane in the road code. AFAIK motorways and so forth are all rated to 100Km/h hence any lane can be used for speeds upto 100Km/h. Its only courtesy that you are to pull to the left (unless signs state otherwise). But back on topic...

Well, hence we need the change ;) everywhere else apart from yanks, there is this rule (even Australia).
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Postby Mr Revhead » Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:33 am

Girvs wrote:
sergei wrote:There is one Road Code adjustment I would welcome: fine/demerit people blocking right lanes.

Not sure where it says there is a fast lane in the road code. AFAIK motorways and so forth are all rated to 100Km/h hence any lane can be used for speeds upto 100Km/h. Its only courtesy that you are to pull to the left (unless signs state otherwise). But back on topic...


NO

Keep left unless passing. There's even signs!
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Postby fivebob » Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:35 am

Girvs wrote:Its only courtesy that you are to pull to the left (unless signs state otherwise). But back on topic...

No, it's actually law. You must keep to the left. In a multi lane road you must keep to the leftmost lane unless that lane is occupied.

However this is seldom enforced and it's still possible to legally comply if all lanes are occupied and travelling at exactly the same speed then you can effectively block traffic.
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