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by **FANGIN** » Mon Nov 30, 2009 2:44 pm

Tonight my flatmate is looking at a 3SGTE powered SW20 targa top. Done 180xxx kms

What are the common faults to look for on these?
Will be looking for the obvious but is there anything we should be especially looking for?

Cheers guys

by **sergei** » Mon Nov 30, 2009 2:54 pm

FANGIN wrote:Tonight my flatmate is looking at a 3SGTE powered SW20 targa top. Done 180xxx kms

What are the common faults to look for on these?
Will be looking for the obvious but is there anything we should be especially looking for?

Cheers guys

Coolant related issues: rust in cooling system (crunchy hoses), overheating, water in oil (milky oil), which brings to another common problem:
Oil related issues: sludge (black plastic like build up under rocker cover), run bearings and oil leaks which brings to another problem:
Blown turbo seals.

by **sergei** » Mon Nov 30, 2009 2:55 pm

Oh, since Targa Top - it will be leaky.

by **FANGIN** » Mon Nov 30, 2009 2:57 pm

Yea will be looking for all of those. Any common 3sgte problems tho?

by **sergei** » Mon Nov 30, 2009 3:02 pm

FANGIN wrote:Yea will be looking for all of those. Any common 3sgte problems tho?

Ran bearings and blown head gasket from result of neglect (first from running low on oil, second from running on water or old coolant).

by **FANGIN** » Mon Nov 30, 2009 3:04 pm

Cheers

no grip · by **Akane** » Mon Nov 30, 2009 3:30 pm

Whatever you do, don't buy a pre facelift.

by **FANGIN** » Mon Nov 30, 2009 3:40 pm

And the reason for that would be?

Which year did the facelift model come out?

no grip · by **Akane** » Mon Nov 30, 2009 4:56 pm

a completely better designed head
Better cams on both intake and exhaust
better turbo
better injectors
different ECU
Map sensored
better exhaust manifold
better sump
better oil filter location
Revised PCV
Better oil pump IIRC (Or was it waterpump?)
better headgasket
better a million other bits.

the list goes on.......

it would be late 93 / 94 and newer for post facefilt.

Some people don't really care about these little bits and pieces of better things, but if I can choose again, I'd go for a facelift.

by **kim0663** » Mon Nov 30, 2009 5:06 pm

you forgot to add that the owners usually want more than your arm and leg and some more for the facelift ones :lol:

1992+ would be my choice. Got all the goodies except the engine changes and only costs a finger

Oh and one more thing, being targa top... many people tend to sell them again when winter comes. You do the maths.

no grip · by **Akane** » Mon Nov 30, 2009 5:33 pm

The 92 has none of the goodies I've mentioned.

They want an arm and a leg for the facelift for a reason. Because they are that much better if you don't plan to go "all out" and " I'm gonna replace everything with aftermarket parts anyway.".

by **kim0663** » Mon Nov 30, 2009 5:35 pm

ah true. my bad.

I thought it listed various things in that long list i didn't bother to read :oops:

by **Adamal** » Mon Nov 30, 2009 5:57 pm

Safest bet: Just don't get one. They're a pain when things go wrong

no grip · by **Akane** » Mon Nov 30, 2009 6:36 pm

Adamal wrote:Safest bet: Just don't get one. They're a pain when things go wrong

Exactly, wish I bought a sweet 180SX instead...... at least I won't kill my back everytime I worked on it.

by **Adamal** » Mon Nov 30, 2009 10:24 pm

Back, and all those muscles down the back of your leg......

no grip · by **Akane** » Mon Nov 30, 2009 10:51 pm

And your stomach when you stand on a chair to lean down into the engine bay, that wedge is nice looking and all but it kills me.

by **fivebob** » Mon Nov 30, 2009 11:03 pm

Wimps

Try bench pressing the gearbox about 10 times because you don't have a proper alignment tool for your twinplate clutch. Must admit I got pretty good at it, only took one attempt and about 30secs to see if I'd got the splines aligned correctly.

by **Adamal** » Mon Nov 30, 2009 11:28 pm

You didn't follow the golden rule: Everything is an engine out job

by **fivebob** » Mon Nov 30, 2009 11:30 pm

Adamal wrote:You didn't follow the golden rule: Everything is an engine out job

Nah, that would've made the job harder. Gearbox is an easy one to do on it's own, I just complicated it by fitting a twin plate clutch.

by **FANGIN** » Tue Dec 01, 2009 7:40 am

Cheers for the info guys, was a pre facelift, I ended up not going with him to get it, but gave him a heads up. I thought they would be a bit quicker than what they are.

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