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4AGE 20v BT: help with removing A/C pump but retaining PS

Postby AE111_JAMES » Mon Jul 18, 2011 12:43 pm

once the A/C pump is removed theres the issue of being able to tension the shorter belt to the power steering pump.

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After finding this stolen photo it shows you that the belt after removing the A/C pump will have to run underneath the tensioner/idler.

It would be much appreciated if someone would possibly know where I could find this correct tensioner.
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Postby neo » Mon Jul 18, 2011 2:48 pm

theres not enough room to do that..

What I did was make the powersteering pump adjustable, this gives it about 10mm of 'swing', just enough to slip a 4pk880 belt on.

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Postby Bazda » Mon Jul 18, 2011 4:00 pm

If your lucky you can find a NZ GTi Corolla which didnt have AC but had PS.
It comes with a special bracket that has the tensioner wheel on it.

But they are damn hard to find. I have one on my car and I had to get it from Aussie.
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Postby tim_blair » Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:57 pm

i did this once
i made up a special bracket that mounts the ps where the ac is

but i think it wasnt lined up very well as the belt had a life of about 3months

i also tried an electric ps pump from an mr2 but they draw shitloads of current and you need an expencive dc motor controller to make them work properly

i eventualy just gave up on haveing power steering

now on my new car the first thing i did was take off the ps (both cars were ae111 bt)

try driving it without the belt for a while you might come to like it....
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Postby Lloyd » Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:16 pm

Or just get a ribbed pulley from another toyota and run the belt around the bottom of it. Or leave the AC pump there
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Postby touge_ae101 » Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:33 pm

just get the right length belt that everyone uses and just tension it by tightening the bolts on the powersteering bracket. works mint.
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Postby XSVWGN » Mon Jul 18, 2011 9:02 pm

touge_ae101 wrote:just get the right length belt that everyone uses and just tension it by tightening the bolts on the powersteering bracket. works mint.


thats exactly what i do


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Postby AE111_JAMES » Tue Jul 19, 2011 11:18 am

thank you very much for all your help guys.

I've managed to get the condenser out no trouble but just sorting out the pump.
did a bit of hunting and it seems as though people just use the belt: 5pk880
which is a perfect fit and no need for the tensioner as touge_ae101 was saying.

phwoar! 38 buks for that belt at BnT!
But might just bite the bullet and go for it :?
May even see if I can get a discount through Toyota lol.
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Postby Dell'Orto » Tue Jul 19, 2011 7:28 pm

You're complaing at $38?? Dont ever get something with a big serpentine belt then :lol:
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Postby rollaholic » Tue Jul 19, 2011 7:31 pm

Lloyd wrote:Or just get a ribbed pulley from another toyota and run the belt around the bottom of it. Or leave the AC pump there


this is what i did on my AE82, it was a bit of a pain to tension though.
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Postby ch4ng » Tue Jul 19, 2011 11:47 pm

yeah, that big 6pk or 7pk belt for the new corollas, ha your's is pocket change compared to that
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Postby 1I1 » Wed Jul 20, 2011 9:39 am

Unless you get the TGP one as they are all line priced at 42+gst retail :lol:
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Postby AE111_JAMES » Wed Jul 20, 2011 2:21 pm

sheesh times must be getting tough for me at the moment then lol.
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Postby RobertC » Wed Jul 20, 2011 2:31 pm

AE111_JAMES wrote:sheesh times must be getting tough for me at the moment then lol.
At this point all I can afford is a hair cut!
I'm sure using the scissors in the kitchen draw would save paying for a haircut. :)
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Postby AE111_JAMES » Wed Jul 20, 2011 2:44 pm

I actually tried that but it definitely turned for the worst!

Will price another belt up tomorrow though I have to finish building this dam trailer, plus buy another tyre and an o2 sensor 8O
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Postby rollaholic » Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:33 pm

if you think fan belts are expensive, make sure you are seated for the price of o2 sensors :D
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Postby AE111_JAMES » Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:19 pm

haha yeah I know, but have found a guy who can get new ones for 140incl postage so not to bad but Rhys might be able to hook me up with a second hand one as mine is next to useless.
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Postby matt dunn » Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:26 pm

rollaholic wrote:if you think fan belts are expensive, make sure you are seated for the price of o2 sensors :D


LOL, yeah try AFR sensors on the modern stuff,

Look the same as a 4 wire o2 sensor but they are wideband and run at up to $600 a sensor.

And the long fan belts like on the 1ZZFE's, TGP was round the $42 +,
where Repco and aftermarket were over $100 for a fan belt !!
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Postby GTsedan » Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:42 pm

I have been considering the same problem as above. My solution was to rip out the aircon and build a bracket with an additional idler pulley (grooved) to replace it. Though I'm now tempted to leave it as is.
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