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by **kiwi4agze** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 11:09 am

I am going to be rebuilding a Bluetop 4age to go into one of my employee's AE-82 FX-GT. I have been told to use small block chevy bolts as they can withstand a lot of abuse.. what ones should I order???

Stock ones or Aftermarket ones?

OMG so shiny! · by **Dell'Orto** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 11:19 am

ARP probably do a rod bolt for them. Probably overkill unless its gonna be pulling 9000rpm all day or running a lot of boost

by **kiwi4agze** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 11:20 am

The last engine failed due to rod bolt failure... i suspect.

ARP are around $260
Small block chevy $26+shipping from us for 4

He is on a very tight budget..

by **kiwi4agze** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 12:20 pm

Dont worry they dont fit.. different size...

by **Bazda** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 3:51 pm

I duno who quoted you that ARP 4age rod bolts are $260. lol

They retail around $100-150.

by **kiwi4agze** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 3:55 pm

100-150? Do you know where I can buy them from????

That was from Advanced engine design in auckland

by **QikStarlie** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 5:15 pm

http://www.fortyone.co.nz/parts/view/13356.html

by **rollaholic** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 6:11 pm

i've got some brand new genuines if you are interested, cheaper than ARP.

PM me if you want them

by **matt dunn** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 7:48 pm

every 4age or gze that I have ever seen personally that has thrown a rod had been apart and the old rod bolts re-used.
I have bought about 2 or 3 engines now with thrown rods and found the undone rod bolt nuts in the sump.

They are one part that I personally would never re-use.
I have used new genuine toyota ones in a race engine I built a few years back and never had a problem, but not sure on the TGP price now.
If it is anything like the 20V headstud prices they have probably skyrocketed and are now bugger all cheaper than ARP.

by **AE82 FXGT** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 8:24 pm

For piece of mind considering the price, should get ARP.

If he's on a very tight budget why is he building a motor?
No point doing it half arsed on the cheap and have it shit itself a while later.

by **kiwi4agze** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 9:19 pm

Cause he blew his old motor and needs a replacement

by **AE82 FXGT** » Sat Oct 08, 2011 1:04 am

kiwi4agze wrote:Cause he blew his old motor and needs a replacement

Fair enough but the point still stands, you don't want to have play around with things like this if you want a reliable motor.

by **allencr** » Sat Oct 08, 2011 8:33 am

matt dunn wrote:... thrown rods and found the undone rod bolt nuts in the sump.

Undone or broken? Sheared off slightly undone, after pounding from a cooked/seized journal? Sounds like undone is an assembly problem not a bolt strength/quality/shoulda replaced with new one problem.
Thanks.

by **MAGN1T** » Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:33 am

It's just a case of reading the service manual, as always.
If the job's done properly, it won't fall apart.

Been told?
By somebody?

Steve

by **d1 mule** » Sat Oct 08, 2011 1:35 pm

if he is a super tight budget, buy a second hand motor of TM for like $300, then start this thread again in 2 months when it craps out.

pay peanuts, get monkeys...

by **AE82 FXGT** » Sat Oct 08, 2011 4:29 pm

d1 mule wrote:if he is a super tight budget, buy a second hand motor of TM for like $300, then start this thread again in 2 months when it craps out.

pay peanuts, get monkeys...

yep, it's one of those things, if you're on a budget, you can't afford not to do it correctly.

by **allencr** » Sat Oct 08, 2011 6:30 pm

kiwi4agze wrote:I have been told to use small block chevy bolts...

Mind writing what other complete BS you've heard from that source?
Thanks in advance for the laffs!

by **QikStarlie** » Sat Oct 08, 2011 7:57 pm

Dell'Orto wrote:ARP probably do a rod bolt for them. Probably overkill unless its gonna be pulling 9000rpm all day or running a lot of boost

pretty sure this thread should have ended at the first reply ^

by **kiwi4agze** » Sat Oct 08, 2011 8:52 pm

allencr wrote:
kiwi4agze wrote:I have been told to use small block chevy bolts...

Mind writing what other complete BS you've heard from that source?
Thanks in advance for the laffs!

I got it from http://www.billzilla.org/4agmods.htm i thought he was well respected?

I asked a question, a simple no would have been more then sufficient allencr

OMG so shiny! · by **Dell'Orto** » Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:16 pm

Some of the stuff there is a bit odd...ie adding a chip

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