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by **ae82 gt 4 us** » Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:18 pm

So was this to replace the one that they may have crashed on test drive?
Red GT Auto Port Hills.

If you were to repower one of these 86, what would peoples choice be?
3sge Beams engine with 6 spd? or for a laugh go with 4age, bit underpowered option thou.

OMG so shiny! · by **Dell'Orto** » Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:55 pm

by **Tha_INS** » Mon Dec 10, 2012 6:12 pm

by **headshotnz** » Mon Dec 10, 2012 6:18 pm

Dell'Orto wrote:2ZZ

+1, supercharged for fasts on track, turbo for lol's

by **Kiwi-Corolla** » Mon Dec 10, 2012 6:19 pm

Anyone see October's NZ Performance Car magazine? Some guy overseas has already chucked a 2JZ-GTE in one.

by **headshotnz** » Mon Dec 10, 2012 6:34 pm

Kiwi-Corolla wrote:Anyone see October's NZ Performance Car magazine? Some guy overseas has already chucked a 2JZ-GTE in one.

Yeah there's a couple on youtube already, I like the IS-F conversion, thats sweet

by **1I1** » Mon Dec 10, 2012 6:57 pm

Yeah Orido's 86 with the IS-F motor swap would have to my favourite

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeq2PK-mMeQ

by **Distrb** » Mon Dec 10, 2012 9:03 pm

ae82 gt 4 us wrote:So was this to replace the one that they may have crashed on test drive?
Red GT Auto Port Hills.

If you were to repower one of these 86, what would peoples choice be?
3sge Beams engine with 6 spd? or for a laugh go with 4age, bit underpowered option thou.

Would a beams 3sge fit into one? They're a fairly tall motor... What would it do to the balance of the car

Website · by Al » Mon Dec 10, 2012 11:26 pm

Would probably break before you got to use the handling anyway.

by **MAC_HATER** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:40 am

since its a boxer from factory

why not go all the way and stick in a 911 turbo motor

by **ae82 gt 4 us** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:21 am

Sorry I'm a loyal Toyota man and was thinking what Toyota set up would be best.
Did you also know that a 3sge Beams also has a bore and stroke of 86mm, which goes nicely with the 86 them.

by **Alex B** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:35 am

ae82 gt 4 us wrote:Sorry I'm a loyal Toyota man and was thinking what Toyota set up would be best.
Did you also know that a 3sge Beams also has a bore and stroke of 86mm, which goes nicely with the 86 them.

Then you wouldn't want a rebadged Subaru anyway :wink:

I think it would have to be a flat engine just so you don't upset balance of the thing.

by **ae82 gt 4 us** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:49 am

What is balance?
When a roll cage goes in, interior gets removed, fat driver inserts himself at lowest seating position. I have had a measure up and would say the cylinder head is the only part higher than the flat boxer engine. 20kg weight higher by 200mm is this really going to upset the characteristics that much. As soon as a roll cage goes in surely that must count for a comprise of weight vs handling.

by **iOnic** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 4:40 pm

Dunno that a 3S is an upgrade tbh

by **VR-4Squid** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:25 pm

Saw a TRD one at BP in Welly (taranaki st) this morning, brakes looked suitably impressive in person.

by **nzer** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:38 pm

VR-4Squid wrote:Saw a TRD one at BP in Welly (taranaki st) this morning, brakes looked suitably impressive in person.

That was me 😃. Say hi next time and you'd be welcome to have a closer look.

Today was a better experience than last Thursday there. Hit the curb by the pump hard and popped the front right tyre! Bugger!

by **Grrrrrrr!** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:47 pm

ae82 gt 4 us wrote:What is balance?
When a roll cage goes in, interior gets removed, fat driver inserts himself at lowest seating position. I have had a measure up and would say the cylinder head is the only part higher than the flat boxer engine. 20kg weight higher by 200mm is this really going to upset the characteristics that much.

Hmmm, remove 200hp boxer motor, install cast iron block 200hp beams motor.. cost = lots, resale value halved, NVH would be worse, higher COG & higher mass =more weight transfer = handling fail.

As soon as a roll cage goes in surely that must count for a comprise of weight vs handling.

A rollcage done right stiffens up the chassis a huge amount, this improves handling. But a rollcage's primary purpose is adding safety/survivability.

Website · by **Bling** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:50 pm

nzer wrote: Hit the curb by the pump hard and popped the front right tyre! Bugger!

by **headshotnz** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:12 pm

Still +1 for the 2ZZ, how many people here have actually driven the 86 and will say they like the engine....

(except those that own it) lol

by **1I1** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:26 pm

TBH I dont mind the stock motor (though i own a 20v so most cars feel fast :lol:

). While the car may not feel fast speed does actually get up pretty quickly.
And aroind town they seem pretty peppy without having to rev it or give it full throttle.

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