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How does one damage a tyre like this? LARGE pics

Postby Elmo » Sat Jul 06, 2013 5:09 pm

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The top pic is the inside edge of one tyre, the inside of the bead.

The second is the outside of another tyre, same damage as the first to the inside also.

The tyres are 33 inch 4x4 tyre, so yes, a little more difficult to handle than the average tyre, but the tyre shop (yes, this was done professionally) had the equipment to deal with this size tyre, and no worse than low profile tyres as these have MUCH more flex.

I bought 4 new tyres through them, at a cost of $1440, so they werent trying to get any payback on me for not spending any money with them.

The tyres all had 4-5 mm of tread left, and would sell as a set for about 200-250.

Ive emailed the company with these pics + 1 showing the tread left. Im awaiting there responce, Im just looking for opinions (well facts) on HOW they could possibly do this to the INSIDE of a bead.
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Postby Dell'Orto » Sat Jul 06, 2013 5:13 pm

Might have pinched getting it onto the rim?
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Postby Elmo » Sat Jul 06, 2013 5:15 pm

Sorry, to clarify, these are the old tyres that were removed.
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Postby ee904age » Sat Jul 06, 2013 5:22 pm

Wonder if there was a sharp edge or chip out of their tyre lever? That could tear it like that if the bar didn't slide freely as the rim turned on machine.

Edit: by lever i mean the foot thing on the machine.
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Postby Elmo » Sat Jul 06, 2013 5:28 pm

I guess this is possible as they try to pull the tyre OVER the rim, but Im guessing it picked up because they didnt have the lower bead in the well of the rim so it put extra pressure on the foot pulling the top bead over.
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Postby Lloyd » Sat Jul 06, 2013 5:28 pm

As above, damaged going on or off. They should have lube going on, and 4x4 tyres should be easier than most to put on without damaging them. Coming off they'd have been dry though. Whoever was doing the job would have noticed it happen.
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Postby FST4RD » Sat Jul 06, 2013 5:47 pm

Looks just like the damage you get when you drive on a flat tyre.
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Postby Elmo » Sat Jul 06, 2013 5:50 pm

FST4RD wrote:Looks just like the damage you get when you drive on a flat tyre.


Yeah definitly not. Even with 8psi in these tyres they still look like they have 30 in them. And theyve never been below 10psi for extended periods (dropped for off road use)
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Postby h8wrxs » Sat Jul 06, 2013 6:27 pm

thats definitely not from driving on a flat, not even close



the first time i put a 17" tire on a rim myself i did exactly this to it and f**ked it beyond repair and i learnt from it

it was the foot thing on the tire machine that ripped/pinched/caught it when i did it
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Postby l1ttle_d3vil » Sat Jul 06, 2013 7:23 pm

sh*t, I've replaced tyres in my garage just by levering them off with a huge bar and never done that much damage!
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Postby holden_fan2005 » Sun Jul 07, 2013 2:08 am

Yep ya get that (tyre machine) when you either have no idea what you're doing and sometimes when pulling off a real old shitty dry tyre.

I've have the work experience kid do that when putting one on and I've had damage like that when removing very old perished/dry tyres.
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Postby fangsport » Sun Jul 07, 2013 2:07 pm

h8wrxs wrote:it was the foot thing on the tire machine that ripped/pinched/caught it when i did it


this. done it myself with 4x4 tyres on an older worn machine
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Postby BZG Wagon » Mon Jul 08, 2013 2:59 pm

...to think this workmanship is from the same guy that put new tyres on your 4x4. :?
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Postby Elmo » Mon Jul 08, 2013 6:32 pm

BZG Wagon wrote:...to think this workmanship is from the same guy that put new tyres on your 4x4. :?


Exactly, I know what ya saying.

So, my email was sent to them saturday afternoon (out of hours), Its now monday evening, and no reply so far.
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Postby fangsport » Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:40 pm

Ken, the guy was a muppet and not taken responsibility for his in-action.
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Postby Elmo » Tue Jul 09, 2013 7:11 am

Yep, and the owner/manager will be getting a phone call today. :-)
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Postby THA SHZ » Tue Jul 09, 2013 11:18 am

dry old tyre , big lip on rim to pull over and no lube most importantly , sometimes happens from not having beads of tyres on the right angle and lifting incorrectly 8)
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Postby Elmo » Tue Jul 09, 2013 4:41 pm

Sorted it all, the owner/manager apologised and offered to buy the tyres for the price i expected them to sell for.

All in all im happy and will go back to them again.
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Postby BZG Wagon » Tue Jul 09, 2013 6:34 pm

Sounds like a very reasonable thing to do. Glad it was a good outcome.
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Postby tsoob » Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:48 am

Looks like a pretty old tyre.. can happen easily if you dont have enough lube!
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